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Subject: Re: R: strong encryption for Europeans
From: Chris Lonvick <clonvick @ cisco . com>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 22:24:30 -0600
To: Ming Lu <mlu @ hq . si . net>, Franco RUGGIERI <fruggieri @ selfin . net>
Cc: Martin W Freiss <freiss . pad @ sni . de>, kate @ forsys . msk . ru, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM, firewall-wizards @ nfr . net

Hello Ming,

They were not exactly attacks.  These were a set of challenges offered
by RSA Labs (with prizes).  

http://www.rsa.com/rsalabs/97challenge/
http://www.rsa.com/rsalabs/97challenge/html/status.html
http://www.frii.com/~rcv/deschall.htm           (winner of DES)
http://rc5.distributed.net/                     (winner of RC5-32/12/7)

For those that don't wish to follow the URLs, 

  Challenge                  time to crack         Prize
 RC5-32/12/5   (40bit key)      3.5 hrs          US$ 1,000.
 RC5-32/12/6   (48bit key)    313   hrs          US$ 5,000.
 DES           (56bit key)    140   days         US$10,000.
 RC5-32/12/7   (56bit key)    265   days         US$10,000.

(And there's US$90,000. in prize money left in the other challenges.)

Later,

Chris Lonvick
Cisco Systems
Corporate Consulting
Houston, TX, USA
+1.713.778.5663

At 06:03 PM 11/24/97 -0500, Ming Lu wrote:
>Franco:
>
>I would like to see reports reagding these successful attacks. I could 
>not find them at CERT.
>
>TIA.
>
>On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Franco RUGGIERI wrote:
>
>> Recently (June and October this year), attacks have been successfully
>> accomplished against DES and RC5 65 bit, by a huge number of computers
>> coordinated via Internet. Since participation in such effort was voluntary,
>> I wouldn't define such coordination as *strict*. Thus, we can assume that a
>> well determined organization would break codes based on keys up to 56 bit
>> in a reasonable amount of time. Therefore I wouldn't recommend VPNs based
>> on such systems (RCx, DES and the likes with *short*keys), unless for what
>> I would dub *minor areas* and for not long lasting applications.
>> This, of course, IMHO. I would appreciate comments (not flames!) on this
>> viewpoint of mine.
>> -------------------------------
>> Franco RUGGIERI
>> fruggieri @
 selfin .
 net
>[snip]
>
>_ming
>
>



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