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Subject: Re: Firewall and network security training.
From: Anton J Aylward <anton @ the-wire . com>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 08:02:39 -0500
To: Ken Williams <jkwilli2 @ unity . ncsu . edu>
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM

At 01:53 AM 23/02/98 -0500, Ken Williams wrote:
## Reply Start ##
>On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Anton J Aylward wrote:
>---[snip]---
>
>>Back in the days I was still hacking V7 kernels, I 
>
>that was right after i got my first computer...a steam-powered
>Difference Engine with a coal-fired boiler.

Yea, great machines, as long as you lube them,
but the floorspace requirements were even worse 
than for the hadn cranked ones, which is why 
we traded ours in...

>---[snip]---
>
>>Aesthetically, I find 'salvation thru suffering' a
>>philosophically unsound precept, along with 'baptism
>>by fire'.  However, my observation is that these are
>>certainly ways of accelerating th learning process,
>>so long as you are willing to tolerate the attrition 
>>rate.   Could we produce larger numbers slower?
>>I don't know.  
>
>i have to disagree.  all the liberal arts degrees floating around are bad 
>enough.  no need to make CS degrees just as easy to get.  we need quality,
>not numbers.

I don't disagree with the need for quality rather than numbers.
Enough shovels won't cut it, we need better shit detectors.

But what are you disagreeing with me on, my philosophical
distaste or my recognition that it is a system which works?

Probably the biggest shortcoming of a modern technical
education is the lack of emphasis it gives on HUMAN
communication and presentation skills.  Its no use
being a genius unless you can communicate clearly.
That is what Bill, Steve and Marcus really have going for them.
Either that or damn god editors, and judging by their
postings I don't think its the editors.

/anton

>
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