"J. Kris Baca" <kris .
baca @
NWA .
COM> wrote on Tue, 24 Feb 1998:
>
> Gary Crumrine wrote:
> > IF I were a newbie, trying to get a start in the industry...I have no one
> > to go to, no place to find out what I need to know, no methodology to learn
> > that can teach me proper steps etc. I am told to go out and discover for
> > myself. No wonder there is mass confusion.We can bandy this around until
> > our fingers bleed, but unless you can solve
> > that problem, it is nothing more than hot air.
>
> As less than a newbie (newbie wannabie) I couldn't agree more. Bennett has
> personally given me some great tips on how to get into this sector of the
> industry (thanks Bennett!), but getting in just out of interest seemed
> impossible. It seemed as if there were those who knew alot and those who had
> heard of snoop from a friend. My remaining question is how does one with a
> fair amount of systems and network knowledge and experience begin to tackle
> the security fray? Classes, books, web sites?? Who's willing to give me some
> pointers and benefit of THEIR experience? This clique seems to be plaqued
> with the same disease the industry as a whole has --
> "Go-find-out-yourself-cause-if-I-tell-you-then-I-won't-get-paid-as-much-or-look-as-smart"
>
> B.S. I've helped and hired 20+ individuals who knew nothing, gave them all my
> notes, told them about all the gotchas. What I've gained in return is a solid
> network of free support and some good friends. So how bout it? Where's a
> good place to start?
>
> ... <fill in the blank> ...
>
I don't know about you guys, but I thought the purpose of this list was to
be able to post questions, answers, thoughts, flames, etc. If we don't help
newbies, are we true to ourselves?
Besides, when is a newbie going to have the answer to one of our own tough
questions? Happens all the time.
Bob De Witt,
rdew @
el .
nec .
com
The views expressed herein are my own,
and are not attributable to any other
source, be it employer, friend or foe.
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