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Subject: Stupid Mailing List Tricks
From: arielle @ taronga . com (Stephanie da Silva)
Date: Thu, 5 May 94 14:47:11 CDT
To: list-managers @ greatcircle . com

It's funny some of the trends with mailing lists.  Sending a reminder on
how to unsubscribe results in a spate of unsubscribe messages to the
posting address.  But you know, all you did was remind these people they
need to unsubscribe, but they don't bother to read the message to find
out *how*.  It amazes me that people use the request address to subscribe,
but can't seem to remember to use it to unsubscribe.

A few days ago I got a message that said "set endorphins nomail."  Except
endorphins is a moderated list, moderated by hand (by me).  In the intro
letter I send out it states: "I'm not a listserv so please don't send me 
any listserv commands."  Sometime ago I got something sent to the ranger-list
posting address saying "subscribe ranger-list."  I wrote back informing this
person of the -request address and asking them to please not send me any more
listserv commands, as I'm not a listserv.  The response to that was to get a 
message from the same person saying "unsubscribe ranger-list."  We've received 
mail addressed to "listserv@taronga.com" and "majordomo@taronga.com."  They 
bounce of course, as they're both invalid addresses.  Confuses me as to my 
knowledge, there is nothing out there on the net advertising either of these 
as valid addresses on taronga.  I get listserv commands sent to *my* address
(arielle@taronga.com) as well as the request/posting addresses.

I dunno, this general trend of thinking that all mailing lists are managed 
by listservs seems to be a fairly recent one, within the last year and a half.
Or maybe I just was lucky the first year or so I ran my lists and missed the 
fun.  Part of the confusion seems to be from people thinking that "listserv" 
and "mailing list" are synonymous terms.  Oh, well.  The sub/unsub problem is
an ongoing thing and is why I moderated my second list (an abusive user was
why I moderated the first one).

<I'm not complaining, I'm just commenting....>
-- 
Stephanie da Silva			          PO Box 720711
arielle@taronga.com                               Houston, TX  77272
Moderator, rec.food.recipes                       713 568 0381


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