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Subject: Re: www.findmail.com
From: Cindy Stanley <connect @ ecentral . com>
Organization: Unschooling List
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 01:23:54 -0700
To: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
References: <199612140251.SAA28309@miles.greatcircle.com>
Reply-to: connect @ ecentral . com

Brewster Kahle <brewster@archive.org> said:
 
> >The Internet Archive is archiving the  public information on the net. We
> >think it is important to make  a record of this historically interesting
> >transformation.  We have  already  found researchers  interested in  the
> >data, and we think useful services will grow out of the data as well.

Eric Thomas wrote:
 
> But you're also
> planning to make money from this work, which isn't yours. It isn't in the
> public  domain,  you don't  own  the  copyright,  and you're  making  the
> assumption that the implicit license  that exists when you subscribe also
> allows you to make  money from the work. Let's just say  that's at best a
> controversial  point  in law  and  many  list  owners certainly  feel  it
> shouldn't  be allowed.  You may  just end  up having  your company  black
> listed on large servers.


I'd have to agree with Eric (and Kynn) on the many points they've brought up.  I 
think all list owners should be *asked* first if they want such a *service*.  I 
know that neither my subscribers nor myself would want the UL's posts archived 
somewhere without our express permission.

What do you do in a case where a list doesn't have the "magic words" in their 
headers, but specifically state in their Welcome Message that all postings are the 
property of the authors and may not be forwarded or distributed elsewhere without 
express permission?  My WM has such a disclaimer, but it wouldn't do you much good 
to ask *me* if you could archive the list's messages, as I didn't write them all.  

Did you know that all email is assumed to be copyrighted by the author, whether it 
states that it is or not?  For more info on email copyrights and common courtesies 
concerning other people's posts, check out these websites:

Copyrights in Cyberspace - by Steve Elias
http://www.nolo.com/nn197.html

10 Big Myths About Copyright Explained - by Brad Templeton
http://www.clari.net/brad/copymyths.html

Cyberspace-Law for Non-Lawyers
http://www.cli.org)

Social Science Electronic Publishing 
http://www.ssrn.org

 
Cindy
Unschooling List Mom
connect@ecentral.com

"Never doubt that a small group of
thoughtful citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has".
                             - Margaret Mead

copyright, 1996


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