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Subject: Re: Educating large masses of users (was: Re: fresh horror from AOL)
From: Pauline Price <pprice @ panix . com>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:25:30 -0500 (EST)
To: "E. Allen Smith" <EALLENSMITH @ ocelot . Rutgers . EDU>
Cc: chuqui @ plaidworks . com, list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <01IEY6EK60WU9AN0LG@mbcl.rutgers.edu>



On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, E. Allen Smith wrote:

> From:	IN%"chuqui@plaidworks.com"  "Chuq Von Rospach"  2-FEB-1997 17:30:10.54
> 
> 
> >There are no easy answers. We've implemented all of those.... But that
> >doesn't mean we've done all we can...
> 
> 	Good point. Noticeably, all the easy answers deal with things
> directly under our control; the more difficult stuff is dealing with
> the doings of others.

One of the things I'm supprised at, is that no-one here seems to be
imagining a REAL solution to list-member cluelessness.  We all agree
that education goes about as far as it can be expected to already.

I was explaining the thread here to my SO last night.  She would be
a typical clueless user - without me to hold her hand - she hates to
read long instructions, is intimidated by new things, etc.  As I 
was explaining the problem, I started to wonder what would make a
list manageable for her.

What if 
	- there were a standard listmanager protocol for commands
	- mail clients knew that protocol, and how to query list-servers
	  about supported features
	- mail clients maintained lists of active subscriptions, and
	  provided intelligent support for posting, suspending,
	  un-subscribing, etc

Then our clueless users would have push-button support for what they
want to do.  And we would have less headaches all around.  I suppose
the world looks much different when you happen to have a stake in
the technology/internet world as well as the personal happiness of one
of the 'worst offender' types.

We know it's not impossible, we've seen what the web and http have
become.  I do alot just using the template feature of my mail
client in the office now.  

What would it take to get from here to there?  

-Pauli
> 	-Allen
> 



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