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Subject: Re: Vexing listserv problem
From: Norbert Bollow <nb @ pobox . com>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 08:00:53 +0100
To: List-Managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <> (message from Bryan Fullerton on Sat, 22 Feb 1997 05:38:39 -0500 (EST))

> From: Bryan Fullerton <>
> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 05:38:39 -0500 (EST)
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> Content-Length: 1874
> > 
> > Good thing too. Because I am getting a deluge of this mail from 
> > mostly LSoft LISTSERVs. Another example is appended below. It seems
> > the listinfo guy is creating a mail loop by sending requests from 
> > list of listservs and then routing the replies to the same list of 
> > listservs. I don't know if this is maliciousness or merely 
> > cluelessness.
> I've gotten 30-50 messages from LISTSERV's coming into my server in 
> the past 12 hours.  Fortunately, I'm running majordomo 1.94.1, which 
> appears to be smarter than LISTSERV is... 

Same thing here. However since I've been doing dome work on Majordomo
(my version does reliable handling of "bounces") I've been logging all
messages to (with headers). Someone seems to
have a list of many listservs, majordomos, etc. Through some error, he
sent a message to that address, which caused the majordomos and listservs
to respond.. some or all of those responses went to that submission
address of that list of listservs, majordomos, etc., causing an avanlanche
of garbage e-mail. Below is a copy of my message to the postmaster of
what I believe to be the guilty site. I haven't received a reply yet.

May blessings from the eternal God surprise and overtake you!

Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:09:42 +0100
From: Norbert Bollow <>
Subject: Please fix ASAP

Hello.. There seems to be an error at your site which causes messages to
be sent to addresses where they don't belong, including the address - below is such a message, complete with all
headers. The consequences of this cost me real money (via my telephone
bill). Please fix this ASAP.

                                     Norbert Bollow

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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 14:03:40 +0200
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Subject: Your message to

Your message to listinfo was redirected to because
it seemed to contain listserver commands and not a real message.

If this was not your intention and it really was a message please change the
first word of the subject and/or body so that it does not look like a command
and send it again to

If you are not sure what words are commands you can get a list of the commands
that this listserver accepts by sending a message with "HELP" in the body of a
message to

If you still have troubles you can contact a non-silicon based life form at .

Thank you.

This listserver, at, is currently serving the
following lists:

lifeintus          (currently inactive)

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