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Subject: Re: FYI: juno.com kicked off of my sites.
From: Dave Barr <barr @ math . psu . edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:42:47 -0500
To: listmom-talk @ skyweyr . com, list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Mar 1997 21:12:32 EST." <2.2.32.19970308021232.0038e784@pop.ma.ultranet.com>
References: <2.2.32.19970308021232.0038e784@pop.ma.ultranet.com>

In message <2.2.32.19970308021232.0038e784@pop.ma.ultranet.com>, Stan Ryckman w
rites:
>At 03:10 PM 3/7/97 -0800, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>
>[note about terminating service to 77 juno.com users because he can't
>get juno.com to respond/cooperate re behavior of 3 of their users]
>
>I think you're overreacting.

I don't think so.

Boycotts like what Chuq is doing is a tried-and-true staple of the net.
It's how the net gets things done, when sites are uncooperative or
doing bad things.

Sites like juno with small message size limits are being intentionally
unfriendly to users who subscribe to mailing lists.  This is _their_ choice,
not the users'.  Juno _chooses_ to make it hard for users to receive lots of
mail.  Why should list owners get around painful limits and restrictions which
a site has set?  Sure, there are short-term and limited gains for a handful
of users.  The net has a whole deserves more.  Chuq and others are doing
a service to other potential list owners and users who will also run
into this problem.  Juno will either fix the problem out of demand from
its users, or it will lose customers.  That is a choice Juno needs to make,
not us.

--Dave



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