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Subject: Re: policy issue on Bcc: of list..
From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 01:01:43 -0800
To: Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs @ hpc . uh . edu>
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <ufasorxbvea.fsf@sina.hpc.uh.edu>
References: Chuq Von Rospach's message of Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:54:06-0800 <v0313030cb0b7c4e1643c@[207.167.80.70]>

> CVR> a list to a CC: in the header? At least then it'd be listed in the
> CVR> mail headers where a user will see it. I don't see any real negatives

> Well, there's the view that the header should be inviolate.  Doing what you
> propose is one short step away from munging From: or To: (people seem to
> variously ask for either) to show the list address.  Some might say that
> subject tags constitute the same step down the slippery slope.

Yup. I agree with you on Subject tags.... But then, I'm not religious
about leaving headers alone, either. That's probably just a new form of
the Reply-To argument... (grin).

> You could also say that filtering software that can't look at the envelope
> sender just plain sucks, and that users of such software should change or

> Finally, if the list name doesn't show in any header, you could just say
> it's indistinguishable on the surface from spam and punt it.  Otherwise it

See, here's where I think our esstential difference is. I'm talking
users. You're talking filters and software. I figure if a user is smart
enough to figure out how to filter, then this isn't really a problem
(although *that* is very arguable), but there's a huge group of folks
who aren't that capable. And the whole Bcc: thing confuses them,
because they haven't gotten past the "look at the header" stage. Just
seems to me that part of the population will continue to grow, too.

What's best for the Naive/newer user? And as long as it doesn't muck
things up for the more advanced users along the way, why not? That's my
basic attitude about this stuff....


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