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Subject: Re: elist address or your address in message TO header
From: James M Galvin <galvin @ acm . org>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:44:43 -0400 (EDT)
To: Mitch Collinsworth <mitch @ ccmr . cornell . edu>
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10010241140060.17852-100000@dragon.ccmr.cornell.edu>

Everything you say is true Mitch, but going back to a comment I made to
Chuq, the slippery slope we are on is that there is no standard way to
filter.

For every elist to which a person subscribes you have to get a few
messages and then determine how best to identify those messages so you
can filter them.  What I'm particularly noticing is a trend (in my
opinion overzealous) towards personalization that is eliminating one of
the key distinctions (and the only remaining general test) between
personal email and elist messages.

Certainly a subscriber can still deal with what is happening to them,
I'm really just lamenting how I see it getting harder, unnecessarily.
Perhaps it isn't getting hard enough and so even I'm being overzealous.

Jim



On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:

    Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:09:48 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Mitch Collinsworth <mitch@ccmr.cornell.edu>
    To: James M Galvin <galvin@acm.org>
    Cc: list-managers@GreatCircle.COM
    Subject: Re: elist address or your address in message TO header
    
    > But why I really
    > dislike it is because it screws up vacation/out-of-office announcement
    > programs, which are not supposed to reply unless the recipient appears
    > in the message headers.
    
    Do they include a "Precedence: bulk" header?  A good vacation program
    will not respond when this is included.
    
    > For me personally it also screws up my email filtering, because the
    > first distinction I make is to test whether a message is personal email,
    > i.e., addressed directly to me.  Elists are just not personal email.
     
    Do they include a "Sender:" header?  If so you can filter on this.
    
    -Mitch
    
    
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James M. Galvin                                         <galvin@acm.org>
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