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Subject: Re: elist address or your address in message TO header
From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:21:32 -0700
To: James M Galvin <galvin @ acm . org>, Mitch Collinsworth <mitch @ ccmr . cornell . edu>
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010241332060.1795-100000@two.elistx.com>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010241332060.1795-100000@two.elistx.com>

At 2:07 PM -0400 10/24/00, James M Galvin wrote:

>Precedence is not a standard insofar as it's use is not documented by a
>recognized "authority".  On the other hand, it has several de facto
>uses, with the emphasis there on uses, i.e., more than one.  Thus, it's
>hard to call it *a* standard, except perhaps in a specific context.

I'm rather suprised nobody's fought to standardize this (but no, I 
don't plan on it). it would be a good thing to do, especially if the 
standardization would include a formal way of identifying mailbots 
and vacationbots and the like. Using Precedence: list, Precedence: 
bulk, et al is a big use of Precedence, but so many things still 
"roll their own" and make it tough for people trying to do the right 
thing and avoid nasty bot-loops.

Formalizing Precedence and building in a formal standard for bot 
identification and recognition would be a big plus.


>However, to suggest that all elist technologies or services should set
>this value is false.  For example, when the elist services of expansion
>and distribution are provided as part of the MTA, i.e., the email system
>never gives up control of the message, it would be inappropriate to set
>this value.

Good point. When I think of this stuff, I generally make the 
(incorrect) assumption it's ALL MLM stuff. But it brings up an 
interesting issue -- how should this be id-ed?

List-ID is heading towards RFC (or is it final?). procmail sort of 
users X-loop. Should there be a standard way of identifying that mail 
was auto-generated in some way and if so, what kind of information 
should be provided?

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Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui@plaidworks.com)
Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:chuq@apple.com)

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