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Subject: speed of packet-filtering
From: Michael Platoff <map @ scr . siemens . com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 16:55:52 -0500
To: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
Cc: mark @ escact . ksc . nasa . gov
In-reply-to: <9401272234 . AA14763 @ mycroft . GreatCircle . COM>

The article below appeared quite a while ago on this list.  I
recently spoke to cisco's customer support about the effects of
access lists on routing speed.  Cisco's support person, after
consulation with others in his group, stated that extended access
lists require the help of the CSC processor, but standard access
list filtering is done in the intelligent routing boards (e.g. a
MEC).  He said the degradation should be minimal with a standard
access list.  Has anyone done any tests to corroberate this?

I'd like to use an extended access list on my net with the
firewall machine, where performance isn't as much of an issue,
and use simple, standard access lists on all of my other internal
interfaces.  This leads to my next question: would mixing
standard and extended access lists on a router degrade routing to
the interfaces with the standard interfaces?

Any experience would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Michael Platoff        			email: map @
 scr .
 siemens .
 com
Siemens Corporate Research		phone: (609) 734-3354
755 College Road East			fax:   (609) 734-6565
Princeton, NJ 08540-6668


smb @
 research .
 att .
 com writes:
 > The following measurements of the speed of packet-filtering on
 > Cisco routers appeared on another mailing list.  It's reposted
 > here with permission.
 > 
 > 		--Steve Bellovin
 > 
 > ------- Forwarded Message
 > 
 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 13:00:47 EST
 > From: mark @
 escact .
 ksc .
 nasa .
 gov (Mark Gibbons)
 > Message-Id: <9401271800 .
 AA14211 @
 escact .
 ksc .
 nasa .
 gov .
 nasa .
 gov>
 > To: cisco @
 spot .
 colorado .
 edu
 > Subject: Re:  Benchmarking of filters.
 > 
 > 
 > Well, I couldn't get everything I wanted but here is a rough list that
 > indicates the effect of access lists on throughput.  We did look at CPU
 > but did not record it, however I don't recall any concern about the %
 > utilization.
 > 
 > Test config:
 > Cisco AGS+ CSC/4 running 9.1(2).  The AGS had 1 serial & 4 ethernet ports
 > configed to route IP, DEC, Novell & AppleTalk, but we only used single
 > stream IP data.  We used a PowerBits ethernet tester to deliver Ip packets
 > to the router & determine throughput rate.  The access list was set up so
 > that the last line of the list was the one which would permit the packet
 > (this being the worst case).
 > 
 >         In Packet Per Second
 > Pkt
 > size   Loopback     0       40     80     120    160    200  <--list size     
 > 64      14787     13307    9300   7695   6769   5561   4661     
 > 128     8418      8224     6537   5583   5157   4486   3851     
 > 256     4521      4521     4047   3679   3475   3121   2830     
 > 512     2348      2336     2293   2172   2097   1968   1849     
 > 768     1585      1577     1585   1541   1504   1435   1372     
 > 1024    1196      1192     1191   1196   1173   1130   1090     
 > 1280    960       958      958    960    960    932    904      
 > 1518    811       811      811    811    811    811    800   
 > 
 > List size has little to no effect on large packet streams, however studies
 > show 66% of our traffic is < 128 byte packets (Scott Bradner's numbers tend
 > to show that is not abnormal).  I ran this test using CSC/3 CPU with no list
 > & with an 80 entry list & got these numbers:
 > 
 > Pkt
 > size     0       80
 > 64     9274     3479
 > 128    6569     3017
 > 256    4241     2410
 > 512    2348     1719
 > 768    1585     1333
 > 1024   1196     1089
 > 1280   960      920
 > 1518   811      805
 > 
 > You can see the CSC/4 is clearly superior in this test.
 > 
 > If I get requests for more info I will look for other test files & post,
 > as time permits.  If you need info on the PowerBits, or Bradner's work
 > at Harvard just ask.
 > 
 > Sorry this is not more complete,
 > me
 > ------- End of Forwarded Message
 > 


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