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Subject: RE: Did the charter change while I wasn't looking?
From: reh @ cs . UMD . EDU (Richard Huddleston)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 00:44:10 -0400
To: Firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM, cdr @ livingston . com, dsmith @ isc . nva . ge . com

I've got a program that will hide any data I want within a sufficiently
complex image in GIFF format, and another program that will embed data 
within a gzip file.  The result, in either case, is something I can make
absolutely sure is undetectible by you as an "unsecure" object. 

We all know that it is then a trivial step to uuencode this, encrypt it
(so you don't know it's uuencoded) and email it to any valid recipient 
name that I can reach.  If mail goes out the firewall, there isn't a
damned thing we can do to stop such "unsecure" traffic.  If a site is at 
all busy, we'd never even notice. 

I'd say that this negates your point pretty well.  Can we stop talking
about e-mail now?  Please? 

Richard 

* However, mail security and the question of how it can affect the firewalls
* effectiveness are directly interrelated.  I beleive that you cannot have a 
* secure firewall with unsecure mail traveling through it.
* 
* In fact, a case is easily made that there is no such thing as a secure 
* firewall with any kind of unsecure traffic going through.

* Name: Dorian W Smith
* E-mail: dsmith @
 isc .
 nva .
 ge .
 com (Dorian W Smith)
* Date: 27 JUN 94


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