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Subject: breakin' to log
From: jeromie @ mmp . com (jeromie)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 15:51:25 PDT
To: kelly @ mmp . com
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM

> From firewalls-owner @
 GreatCircle .
 COM Wed Jul 27 23:31:44 1994
> From: Christopher Klaus <cklaus @
 shadow .
 net>
> Subject: Re: NCSC ratings
> To: morgan @
 engr .
 uky .
 edu (Wes Morgan)
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 94 12:30:58 EDT
> Cc: firewalls @
 GreatCircle .
 COM
> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0]
> Sender: Firewalls-Owner @
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 COM
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> 
> > 
> > 
> > >  ted> Hold the phone there cheif. As I recall AIX 3 exceeds the
> > >  ted> Department of Defence C2 security rating.
> > 
> > Remember, folks, these ratings are basically meaningless as soon
> > as you plug the box into an insecure network.  The NCSC ratings
> > are awarded to *particular configurations* of hardware and soft-
> > ware, not to a generic OS distribution.
> > 
> > I really ticked off an IBM salesman once by pointing this out,
> > as he was expounding upon the "highest security rating" enjoyed
> > by his product.  8)
> 
> Looks like all the ratings and such arent helping the military:
> 
> The Sun Herald, 22 July 1994
> 
> PENTAGON UNABLE TO CATCH INTERNET HACKERS
> 
> 	
> Washington - 
> 
>      For seven months the Pentagon has been unable to locate hackers tapping
> into its unclassified computer system, officials said Thursday.
> 
>      Defense Department officials have known since December that intruders
> in the United States and abroad have gained access to Pentagon computer 
> files through the Internet and, in some cases, stolen, altered and erased
> records.  But despite a security budget in the "hundreds of millions of 
> dollars," the Pentagon has been unable to close the breach.
> 
> 
> 
> --- With hundreds of millions of dollars, you think they could install
> a firewall?  
> 
> Chris
> 
> -- 
> Christopher William Klaus  <cklaus @
 shadow .
 net>  <iss @
 shadow .
 net>
> Internet Security Systems, Inc.         Computer Security Consulting
> 2209 Summit Place Drive,              Penetration Analysis of Networks
> Atlanta,GA 30350-2430. (404)998-5871.
> 


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