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Subject: Re: Hacker's Site list
From: bonomi @ delta . eecs . nwu . edu (Robert Bonomi)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 94 21:28:10 CDT
To: firewalls @ greatcircle . com

+ From: ericw @
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 com (Eric Wedaa)
+ Message-Id: <9408242122 .
 AA24548 @
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+ To: firewalls @
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+ Subject: Hacker's Site list

+ There seems to be a large interest in this issue (15 responses in less
+ than 24 hours).  I assume that represents a larger group of people
+ who would like to see such a list, but declined to respond to email.
+ I guess this brings up the following questions:

+   How is the list formatted?
+   How do sites get on/off the list?
+   Where will the list be stored?  (Not on my machine!;-)

+ I would like to suggest the following format  (To be condensed and 
+ abbreviated later)

+                        # of complaints|Date of last
+ Site Name | Site type| received by me |complaint    |Probe types|Comments
+ ----------|----------|----------------|-------------|-----------|--------
+ netcom.com|Pub Acc.  | 3              | 8/24/94     |sendmail   |Very aggressive against crackers/SLIP lines

+ Site types:
+ -----------
+ K12 K-12th grade school
+ JC  Junior college
+ U   University/college
+ PA  Public Access
+ C   Commercial site
+     More to be defined later

+ Probe Types:
+ ------------
+ SM  Sendmail
+ FR  rsh with -froot
+ FTP Attempted FTP snarf
+ BL  Bogus logins (guest/root/bbs/games/etc.)
+     More to be defined later....

+ A site gets put on the list once it is reported to the list maintainer by root
+ at a site. (This at least gives us a little bit of verification.)

+ A site, once on the list, stays on the list until that site is off the net.
+ This is why the date field exists.  

I _don't_ like this part of the idea.  How about 'number of incidents in last 3
mo.', 'number of incidents in last 6 mo.', 'number of incidents in last year', 
and a site drops of the list when there have been reports from less than two
different sites in the last year. (Okay, -you- figure out a 'cleaner' way to
say that! :)


+ And I am very interested in keeping this list of off my site if at all possible.


+ Any comments?






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