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Subject: Re: Hacker Site List?
From: ian @ sq . com
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 12:42:52 -0400
To: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM, kidaj @ ustcunclass . safb . af . mil

> The Hack List sounds like a good idea, 
>   I would feel BEFORE a site is listed ...

I think it's a bad idea. The etiquette of normal society can be applied here.
Let's say that a crime has been committed: your house was broken into.
Let's further assume that eventually you find the culprit, and that he/she/they
live in another town, Town X. 

Would it be appropriate for you (if you had the power) or your
municipal government to block *everybody* who lives in Town X where the
criminal lives from entering your town, until Town X ceases to exist?
And to run an advertisement in some wide-reaching newspaper (NYT? WSJ?
USA Today?) proclaiming that all persons living in town X are
burglars?

If so, you have a very different view of the world than I. And if not,
why should you do electronically what you would not do by hand?

Now certainly there are some gray areas: if many crimes come from one neighborhood,
one may be justified in forming a general opinion of its inhabitants. And in doing
university-style research into why it should be so (even if it's a black/hispanic/
whatever neighborhood, even though you'll be falsely accused of racism).  But you
still do not ban all residents of that town from visiting your town.
 
> But whatever we do, it should be a seperate NEWS/Listsrv feed
> or we could check with CERT/CIAC about  managing the info

I don't think CERT wants to get into the business of libelling/slandering
other organizations, either.

Look, if all the energy that's going into this bad idea were directed someplace useful,
we could probably come up with a provably secure mail transfer agent, and be
done with the sendmail probes. :-)


ian @
 sq .
 com

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