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Subject: Re: Sidewinder
From: "Bryan D. Boyle" <bdboyle @ maverick . erenj . com>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 21:56:33 -0500 (EST)
To: rmck @ paragon-systems . com
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com
Posted-date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 21:56:33 -0500 (EST)

On Wed, 30 Nov 1994 rmck @
 paragon-systems .
 com wrote:

> Afternoon Cyberhounds!
> 
> Anyone on the net got a handle yet on how solid Sidewinder is? 
> Secure Computing has put out a nice looking package (great brochure!).  
> But this firewall was hatched with some "encouragement" from our friends 
> up at zip code 20755, and am curious if anyone from the "real" world has 
                 ^^^^^
Ft. Meade, eh?  NSA...that would instantly disqualify it for a commercial 
or personal application (If Clipper was the best they could come up with,
then...)

Besides, the NSA charter does not rule out domestic surveilance.  I would not
want to make it easy for them.  

But, then, I am a libertairan in that regard..

> taken it for a test drive. > 
> Bob-on-the-Beltway
_______________________________________________________

 Didn't intend to get folks exercised about 20755's involvement in Sidewider.  Although the inference of such might be seen in the shadows by some, Sidewinder is indeed a commercially developed product, developed by a Secure Computing Corporation, who quite rightly and appropriately enjoys the benefits of very strong technical and financial support from 20755 through sponsored INFOSEC product R&D.

The question I raised was, because of the access they enjoy with that gang, were they able to take advantage of it and put out a device that truly distinquishes itself from the growing stack of commercial offerings that are full of all kinds of holes, and has anyone (20755 excluded) looked under the hood long and hard enough to make an informed judgement?

Don't worry about the boys and girls at 20755.  Contrary to popular contemporary lore, they are not as much a threat to you as they are a danger to themselves and the poor Gov't user agencies they are supposed to support.

Bob-on-the-Beltway

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