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Subject: Re: Counterpoint
From: twalker @ acc . org
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 12:41:08 -0500
To: padgett @ tccslr . dnet . mmc . com (A. Padgett Peterson, P.E. Information Security), firewalls @ greatcircle . com

     One Point.  If you know its wrong or illegal & do it anyway (even 
     though your boss tells you otherwise), you most likely can be held 
     accountable.
     
     Just ask 'Ollie North'.  He should have know selling arms was illegal 
     (in the manner he did it in), but did it anyway because he indicates 
     the President 'told him to'.  He did not get anything in writing and 
     he was the one who got pinned on that one.  He was just lucky not to 
     get any jail time.
     
     That's just my observation and opinion.
     
     /Tom
     
     PS.  Asking for a written statement/authorization is good, especially 
     if the statement indicates who is responsible.  (i.e. your boss/not 
     you).


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Subject: Counterpoint
Author:  padgett @
 tccslr .
 dnet .
 mmc .
 com (A. Padgett Peterson, P.E. Information 
Security) at Internet-Mail
Date:    1/4/ 0 9:34 PM


     
>Without a written signed clearance from your corporate legal eagle, they have 
>absolute deniability. You will be the one who goes to jail, not them.
     
But then I keep reading about incidents where sysops have been arrested 
for things that they claimed they did not know were there and must have 
been uploaded by someone else. I am also seeing cases in which employers
are being cited for actions of employees that the employer did not know were 
happening and in fact had written policy against.
     
Fact is that you may be able to get into as much or more trouble for doing 
nothing as you would if you do something. 
     
My opinion is:
1) State a position publicly
2) Enforce it
     
Just make sure your boss knows what you are doing (the old military method 
works well: "Unless I receive instructions to the contrary...").
     
If you don't like that then "Lead, follow, or get the h*ll out of the way."
     
					Warmly,
						Padgett

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