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Subject: Re: individual ftp accounts from the dirty net
From: sdw @ lig . net (Stephen D. Williams)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 00:11:38 +0000 (GMT)
To: shaver @ ingenia . com
Cc: sdw @ lig . net, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199502060708 . CAA00317 @ schoolnet . carleton . ca> from "Mike Shaver" at Feb 6, 95 02:08:31 am

> Stephen D. Williams mumbled something vague about:
...
> > Can't this be solved by the more or less standard 'secret' structure:
> 
> [standard secret structure snipped =) ]
> 
> > Does anyone have solid problems with this or a better method?
> 
> I do, if only on the grounds that STO is a bad plan, for anything.

STO... Hmm don't match that tonite: definition?

Do you have an alternative?

> My basic philosophy towards security is that you have to assume at all times
> that someone wants very badly anything that you want to protect.  I'll admit
> that I wasn't such a hardliner at one point, but I've learned a few lessons,
> and my experiences with low-level network programming make me very
> untrusting of the network in general.

> I really don't want to start up the STO debate again, but that's where I
> sit.

I'm not trusting the network more than I would have to for normal uids/passwords,
am I?  As far as accountability, I'm loosing since a user can give our
the secret file/directory name with probably less intrepidation than an account.
However as far as access, it is still protected by a 'password'.  A one/two time
one at that.

If you don't use fully encrypted sessions you are trusting the network quite
a bit in any case.

> Mike

sdw
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