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Subject: Re: Node based security (Was: Re: No Out-Of-The-Box Security)
From: tws @ wh . bayer . com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 95 11:59:09 -0500
To: horn @ mickey . jsc . nasa . gov, padgett @ tccslr . dnet . mmc . com
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com

>> From firewalls-owner @
 GreatCircle .
 COM Wed Mar  1 11:14:31 1995
>> From: horn @
 mickey .
 jsc .
 nasa .
 gov
>> Subject: Node based security (Was: Re: No Out-Of-The-Box Security)
>> To: padgett @
 tccslr .
 dnet .
 mmc .
 com (A. Padgett Peterson P.E. Information Security)
>> Cc: firewalls @
 greatcircle .
 com

>> padgett @
 tccslr .
 dnet .
 mmc .
 com wrote:
>> >So my feeling is that the nodes really do not need any security except as
>> >a second line of defense (I like defense in depth - preferably three levels
>> >deep) because the problem packets should never reach the nodes if I have
>> >done my job properly.
>> 
>> Wow!  That's quite a statement.  I think that our network perimiter provides
>> us the lion's share of our security, but that doesn't mean that I don't make
>> node based security a priority.
>> 
>> Do all of you out there really put that much confidence in your firewalls that
>> you feel you could comfortably ignore the security of individual nodes?  To
>> the extent that just about any unix box can be a router and do SLIP/PPP, don't
>> I have to worry about a node creating another point of contact from the
>> Internet?  Or is that kind of awareness not considered node based security?
>> -- 
>> Mark Horn (sparkie)
>> EMAIL:  horn @
 mickey .
 jsc .
 nasa .
 gov
>> WWW:    http://tommy.jsc.nasa.gov/~horn
>> 

I think the issue of how you control what goes onto your
network is a fundamental one.  If someone you don't know
can plug his/her machine (say, to the wall plate) and be
on the network, all the bets are off.
A question: does your boss understand that?

Regards,
Tenna Sakai
Miles Research Center
(Soon to be Bayer Research Center)


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