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Subject: SATAN Irony: Only Intruders can use it...
From: Dave Barrett <barrett @ asgard . cs . Colorado . EDU>
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 95 01:39:06 -0700
To: Firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM

I was just examining the satan_doc file, and much to  my  chagrin  it  uses
perl5,  and  does  a lot of scripting.  Now, there is *no* way I'm going to
let these scripts run unless they're inside a jail.  But, perl5 is  a  mess
to  try  and build inside a jail, and I really don't think it's a good idea
to have it there anyway.

It occurs to me that virtually any system administrator with  something  to
lose  (like  they're  job!)  is in the same boat.  They can't afford to run
SATAN because to do so would be expose them to potential traps they'd  like
to avoid.

It seems that even if you run the beast on a dedicated machine outside your
firewall,  that  you  are  *still* exposing your firewall to a rather harsh
threat.

But, what about administrators of small machines,  single-user,  served  by
SLIP  say,  who  want  to  ensure that their SLIP tunnel-driver and network
configuration are adequately protected?   Is the only  solution  to  recode
SATAN  completely  by  hand,  thus  ensuring no trapdoors are there?  Is it
possible to build a chroot'd jail which is safe and yet powerful enough  to
allow SATAN to run?    If so, I'd greatly welcome any suggestions.

My apologies if this is the inappropriate place to ask this.  Let me  know,
and I'll redirect it to the correct mailing list.

Dave Barrett barrett @
 cs .
 Colorado .
 EDU


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