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Subject: Outgoing ftp and filters
From: mtaie01!mtaho02!root @ sam . wal-mart . com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 16:22:45 CST
To: mtaho02!jmselle
To: firewalls @ greatcircle . com, cisco @ spot . colorado . edu
Reply-to: dfci . harvard . edu!ellozy @ sam . wal-mart . com

This is an extract from a program on ftp.cisco.com to generate access
lists, summarizing the problem with outgoing ftp:

#
# Permit TCP connections with port numbers greater than 1024
# into a very limited set of hosts.  Make sure NO terminal servers
# are in this list because this allows dangerous access to terminal
# servers and protocol translators.
#
# This is so that people can FTP out of cisco without using pftp
# (available from ftp.cisco.com).  We now use passive-ftp everywhere
# and no longer need to permit this.  This is the *ONLY* reason to allow
# inbound TCP >1023 so don't let anyone give you shit for closing this
# hole.
# 
# This is a serious major gaping security hole and should be denied 
# except known secure machines.  The 'established' keyword earlier on
# handles everything outbound but outbound FTP, so that is the ONLY
# reason we should allow this.
#

Passive ftp is available for UNIX computers in source form, but what
about its availability on other platforms (Macs and PCs running ftp
software tcp/ip)?  Also, how widely do the "main" public ftp servers
support it?

Thanks.

Mohamed

From: Robert Kiessling <Robert .
 Kiessling @
 rrze .
 uni-erlangen .
 de>
Subject: Re: Dead 4000
In-Reply-To: <199503282215 .
 OAA27325 @
 lager .
 cisco .
 com> from "Tony Li" at "Mar 28, 95 2:15 pm"

Tony,

>    >   I have a Cisco 4000 that dies after displaying the first three lines of the
>    >   normal boot display cycle.  These lines are as follows:
> 
>    >	System Bootstrap, Version 4.6(4), SOFTWARE
>    >	copyright 1986-1993 Cisco Systems
>    >	4000 processor with 16384 kbytes of memory
> 
>    >   Any ideas of where I should look for the problem first?
> 
>    >Without more information, it's impossible to say.  Please contact your
>    >normal support channels.
> 
>    Perhaps you have an interface with no IP address assigned?
> 
> That should _not_ cause a problem.

But nevertheless it does. Have an NVRAM config which mentions 
no BRI interfaces and and TFTP config with BRI interfaces in 
a dialer group and no individual IP addresses (only inter dialer 
have IP addresses). Then, after loading the TFTP file, the 
router has a total standstill. Only switching on and off helps.
(IOS 10.2(4)).

No, I have not yet opened a case with TAC as I know how the 
get around (assign IP unnumbered ip the BRI interfaces) and 
I want the router to work and not to fail because of me 
reproducing the error and perhaps minimalizing the failing 
configuration.

Best regards,

Robert

--
Robert Kiessling                   Robert .
 Kiessling @
 rrze .
 uni-erlangen .
 de
Betreuung Terminal-Server          dialinadm @
 rrze .
 uni-erlangen .
 de
Regionales Rechenzentrum Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg



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