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Subject: Re: intelligent/"stateful" packet filter weaknesses
From: Darren Reed <avalon @ coombs . anu . edu . au>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 21:41:44 +1000 (EST)
To: Brent @ GreatCircle . COM (Brent Chapman)
Cc: pfcouvar @ amhux3 . amherst . edu, firewalls @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <v02120c07ac17fa21e471 @ [198 . 102 . 244 . 46]> from "Brent Chapman" at Jun 28, 95 10:42:34 pm

In some mail from Brent Chapman, they said:
[...]
> >Do any stateful packet filters examine the content of the packet and
> >have enough of an understanding of the given protocol to reject such
> >packets?
> 
> No, not as far as I know.

Andrew Molitar's paper at Usenix on `their' packet filter described
filtering out the FTP RETR command, for example. (Lef the proceedings
at work, else I'd know the title of the paper).

> >Is it always _possible_ to do so?
> 
> I doubt it.

If you're prepared to reassemble IP packets to do it, as required, yes.
I haven't checked, but is probably not amongst the recommended options
for IP gateways/routers.

If you're worried about performance, if you were using an OS such as
Solaris2 for your firewall, you might want to do what Sun have done with
telnetd/rlogind and have them work as STREAMs modules.

darren


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