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Subject: Re: TW on a w-protected floppy
From: Wilner @ DOCKMASTER . NCSC . MIL
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 95 10:34 EDT
To: firewalls @ GREATCIRCLE . COM

Ranum writes:

> It's possible, I suppose, but if you're dealing
> with that kind of level of effort it'd be easier
> to just hack the kernel to not see or remap certain
> files.

To "modify the open() routine in the C library" is not to "just
hack the kernel."  The kernel is distinct from the C library.

> I know for a fact that tools exist which allow
> a hacker to modify the open() routine in the C
> library, so that if a program like tripwire tries
> to open a file for read, it actually opens a copy
> of the original file, and causes a failure if the
> original file is opened or stat()ted directly. This
> causes the file to be invisible to tripwire and to
> check out OK.

Something is missing here: how is "open a file for read" to be
distinguished from "open(ed) ... directly" if the only API
available to programs is open() operating upon a user-visible
pathname?

How will you deal with symbolic links?  Anyone can make a symbolic
link to any file, as long as that person can search the directory
in which the file resides, and the pathname mapping [analogous to
the API readlink() function] would be performed by the kernel, not
by C library functions.

How will your magic open() function deal with hard links to files?
Will it track down each link dynamically each time a file is
opened?  This will impose non-negligible delays, to say the least.

Lumping the stat() thingum into the open() solution is a bit
parochial.  One can also stat() files given only a file descriptor.
In that case, pathname-based mechanisms are useless.

> That's a lot of work for an attacker to go through,
> though.

Modifying a single library does not seem like a lot of work for an
attacker to go through.


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