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Subject: Re: THANKS: Summary of known services
From: "Jack Stewart" <jack @ macsch . com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:38:28 -0700
To: frimp @ mms-gmbh . de
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: "Frank Heinzius" <frimp @ mms-gmbh . de> "THANKS: Summary of known services" (Jul 14, 4:06pm)
References: <m0sWnLN-000AZaC @ mms>

On Jul 14,  4:06pm, Frank Heinzius wrote:
>
> I found out that most denied packets are ftp data connections (tcp
> src gt 1023 dst gt 1023) used by the Netscape WWW browser. This seems to
> be a dangerous fact: browsers like Mosaic use the assigned ftp-data
> channel, but Netscape uses non-privileged ports nearly at random. Of
> course, some of the services found in strobe.services or RFC1700 are
> perfectly overridden ;-)
>
> Any ideas, how to handle ftp from WWW-browsers (except from removing
> the ftp-gateway pages)?
>

Actually, it is a GOOD thing!

Netscape uses PASV ftp by default (passive ftp).  You should refer to
Cheswick and Bellovin for a discussion on passive ftp but basically it is a
good idea.  A 10.3(3) Cisco access list for ftp might look like this:

access-list 102 permit tcp any eq ftp 161.34.0.0 0.0.255.255 gt 1023
established
access-list 102 permit tcp any gt 1023 161.34.0.0 0.0.255.255 gt 1023
established

access-list 121 permit tcp 161.34.0.0 0.0.255.255 gt 1023 any eq ftp
access-list 121 permit tcp 161.34.0.0 0.0.255.255 gt 1023 any gt 1023

You would use access list 102 for incoming packets and 121 for outgoing
packets.  This will get passive-ftp up and working.  WS-FTP, Netscape, and
anarchie work with passive ftp.  It is also possible to modify ftp client
code for passive ftp.

---Jack


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