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Subject: Re: preventing password accidents.
From: Michael Brennen <mbrennen @ puddytat . intecom . com>
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:36:58 -0500 (CDT)
To: Darren Reed <avalon @ coombs . anu . edu . au>
Cc: Firewalls Mailing List <Firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM>
In-reply-to: <199508031550 . IAA22775 @ mycroft . GreatCircle . COM>

On Fri, 4 Aug 1995, Darren Reed wrote:

> What I'd like to propose is that firewalls and other systems which
> require the use of reuseable passwords take preventative measures,
> to stop a potentially harmful/critical password being entered across
> an insecure medium.  ie if it sees the username "root" given to the
> "login:" prompt, it drops the connection immeadiately with no
> "Password:" prompt sent back.  And it does the same for anyone who has
> a trusted account (ie group wheel, etc).  You may wish to alter this
> policy for ssh/STEL/deslogin accesses, as appropriate.

<clip>

> If something already has this behaviour, please point me at it, but as
> far as I am aware, nothing will stop you entering a password if you
> have already entered a username, especially if it is valid.


A properly configured S/Key system will prevent this.  The trick is the 
/etc/skey.access file to require S/Key from non-local sites.  I have a 
particular login that does not require S/Key locally, but will not accept 
the reusable password remotely.  S/Key is required for remote login on 
that ID.

Nothing prevents me from *trying* to enter the password from a remote site
and having it sniffed, but it won't be accepted.  A short between the
headphones is a different problem entirely. 

The combination of tcp_wrappers, S/Key and logdaemon is a rather
configurable way to tighten access.  The logdaemon package in addition
allows configurable use of login names.  I have root completely disabled
from all but the local console, for example.  Groups can be controlled in
similar ways. 

Comments welcome if I have missed something...

Michael Brennen


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