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Subject: Re: HannaH from SecureWare Inc.
From: mulligan @ future . incog . com
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 12:42:22 -0600
To: gary flynn <gary @ habanero . jmu . edu>
Cc: mulligan @ incog . com, firewalls-digest @ GreatCircle . COM, shields @ yage . tembel . org
In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Sep 1995 14:08:47 EDT." <199509011816 . LAA24628 @ incog . com>
Reply-to: mulligan @ incog . com

Gary wrote:
> True, it has some limitations. Some will be solved, some may not. But
> for our users of mainline applications, it seems to cover the bases
> pretty well.

So for you, in your specific environment, it may be an OK solution.
There have been a number of concerns raised, though.

> The bulk of our machines are PCs. I probably should have made that
> clear. 

Again for your environment it may work, but what about the other systems
that your PC users may want to communicate with securely.  You need
interoperability.

> 
> > The "certificate diskette" is yet another potential problem.  Since the
> > private key is decrypted off the disk and stored in the end system it is
> > available to be read by anything running on system (especially on PCs)
> > and when the diskette is removed does the private key get removed or
> > does the system maintain its identity/Distingushed Name.  It can't check
> > for the presence of the diskette on every packet or it would be too slow
> > to be usable.  In addition the private key (though encrypted) on the
> > certificate diskette is copyable.
> > 
> 
> I'd put this in the class of "please remember to logoff the system
> when you are done and before leaving your terminal/PC". The user
> needs to "unsecure" the desktop before leaving. This may imply
> turning it off or Hannah may have some procedure to "unauthenticate".
> The diskette is a threat but physical security addresses that.

No the threat is also that if I can copy your diskette and guess or bute
force your password (users always use good passwords) or I can grab the
decypted private key from the PC itself then I can become you.

Obviously if you think that it meets your needs (as you seem to) then
use it.

	geoff

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