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Subject: Re: Corporate Audits
From: "Paul D. Robertson" <proberts @ clark . net>
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:36:50 -0400 (EDT)
To: Bruno MAMER <security @ crpht . lu>
Cc: Firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <v02120d02ac7c96071f97 @ [158 . 64 . 4 . 55]>

On Wed, 13 Sep 1995, Bruno MAMER wrote:

> I'm no network expert so correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it easy to
> detect if someone on a LAN connects to Internet (or a WAN) through a modem
> connection ? Won't there be on the lan some unusual trafic (I mean there
> addresses coming from outside the lan) which should be detected if a
> correct monitoring is done ?
>

 
Not if the PC acts as a proxy, which is true not only of compromised PCs, 
but also of protocol encapsulation, a la' win95, wfw, etc., where the 
packets destined for the intruder are not IP packets.  This is the 
most likely form of attack, given that actually putting IP trafic on the 
network via routing necessitates the comprmise of routers beyond the 
initial subnet, if that subnet isn't between the target host and the 
default routes for the network, if you are looking to target hosts 
outside of the subnet that the compromised PC sits on.
  
Also, on large multi-protocol networks, it may be impractical to monitor 
addresses based on protocol specific information.

Paul.

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