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Subject: Re: FW to FW FTP w/ no port > 1023
From: sgcccdc @ citec . qld . gov . au (Colin Campbell)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 95 9:36:16 EST
To: wbunting @ ch . inri . com (Bill Bunting)
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <199510022113 . RAA02810 @ hatteras . ch . inri . com>; from "Bill Bunting" at Oct 2, 95 5:13 pm

I believe the only(?) option is to allow incoming connections. The ftp
gateway (fro example) sends out a PORT command listing a port > 1023,
so the ftp server creates a connection from port 20 to a port > 1023.
If you can live with incoming connections to ports > 1023 you can have
ftp access. Of course this means tightening up the security on the box(es)
receiving those incoming connections. On a bastion host the only things
listening on ports > 1023 will be the ftp gateway (on the ones I build).

Colin
> 
	[chomp]
> 
> Things I have considered.
> -------------------------
> 1. Poke a hole in the firewall and allow FTP data connections on port 20
> (ftp-data).  FTP client would be reprogrammed to use port 20 for data
> connections.  Issues: Multiple concurrent FTP client listen requests could
> get swapped.  (What happens in the FTP implementation when this occurs?)
> 
> 2. Poke a range of holes in the firewall.  Reprogram the FTP client to look
> for free ports within the range.  Issues: Still required to poke several
> holes in the firewall, requires custom FTP software.  Benefit: listen
> requests will not be swapped. (Best solution that I can find do far)
> 
> 3. Do not use FTP and write a TCP application that uses only a single TCP
> port for data and control.  Issues: Time + $$ no compatibility. Benefit:
> solves the problem.
> 
> 4. Am I missing something???  Help.  How are other people doing this??  Do
> most people just allow ports > 1023?? 
> 
> Thank you,
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