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Subject: RE: ENCRYPTED DATA ACROSS NATIONAL BOUNDARIES???
From: "Johnson-Bryden, Ian" <IJB @ saicuk . co . uk>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 11:22:00 GMT
To: "'firewalls @ greatcircle . com'" <firewalls @ greatcircle . com>
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That's not entirely correct either. Most countries (possibily all) have 
legislation which prevents the use of devices which prevent the authorities 
from being able to access the infomation passing within their national 
boundaries. Some of this legislation was introduced to cover voice traffic 
and hardcopy postal material and has never been updated to specifically to 
cover data sent electronically, or removed from the legal lists. Some 
countries have added regulations specifically to cover electronic data 
scrambling/encryption, but not necessarily intended for universal 
application within their borders. I am not a lawyer but I understand from 
lawyer colleagues on working groups that countries, including Germany, do 
have legislation which can be applied to make the holding/use of data 
encryption products an admission of guilt (of some much darker activity). In 
most cases this type of legislation exists to counter organised crime and 
particularly drug trafficking. The reality is that no one can decide exactly 
how to use existing legislation and what new legislation to introduce and 
there are dozens of working parties around the world looking at this subject 
and trying to draw conclusions. Two very active organisations are OECD and 
the European Commission of the European Union.

The US Federal Government has the added legislative layer around ITAR which 
does not stop the import and export of 'munitions', but does require the 
application for and grant of a license. That process can be extremely 
protracted, particularly if the end user destination does not have 
'favoured' status. However, if you put enough effort and time into making an 
application, the restrictions are not a concrete wall.

Two major issues face legislators. The first challenge is defining the 
object of the legislation. It may seem simple to describe the object as 
'electronic data communication', but effective legislation requires a better 
definition to be enforced through the courts and may not reflect new 
technology. What we now accept as electronic mail could be replaced within a 
very short time with a new technology which does not legally conform to that 
description. If you look carefully at data protection legislation you will 
see that most governments have been very careful to spread the net beyond 
current descriptions and that has already given lawyers room to argue in 
test cases. The second challenge is that no country can effectively 
legislate beyond its own borders and so far getting early international 
agreement has proved difficult.

In the mean time, a great many organisations do not register under data 
protection legislation and do use and handle encryption products against 
existing legislation. Most governments have decided to hold off bringing 
test cases and thats just a case of risk management. On one side a user 
faces risks to unencrypted data, on the other he faces risks from the courts 
if he uses encryption. As most of the court risks look low, companies 
operate outside the law as the lesser risk action. Thats a personal choice 
but for some companies it may prove to be a bad choice.
Ian J-B
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From: firewalls-owner
To: firewalls
Subject: RE: ENCRYPTED DATA ACROSS NATIONAL BOUNDARIES???
Date: Thursday, October 19, 1995 11:02AM

     Simon Gerraty wrote:
     >>as with PGP it just won't be legal.

     This is incorrect. The use of x bit RSA (x > 40) type encryption is
     not illegal - I could send you a encrypted message from here, London
     UK, without breaking any laws.

     The EXPORT from the US of any software capable of performing such
     encryption is illegal, not its use.


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