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Subject: Re: UDP and the unclean...
From: Chris Woods <cjwoods @ wire . paladin . com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 08:24:32 -0500 (EST)
To: "Steven K. Sharp" <sksharp @ cts . com>
Cc: Firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <m0ta4hN-000V0yC @ mailhub . cts . com>

On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, Steven K. Sharp wrote:

> Please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why is UDP such a bad
> thing?  Especially things like RealAudio, this uses UDP to communicate (as
> do many other programs).  What security risk does UDP pose?

As someone else detailed (more eloquently) earlier:

UDP is a connectionless protocol: i.e., it does not require an established
session for packets to be sent to and fro. For lack of a simpler, easier
explanation: the sender "spews" the packets without first establishing a
connected session, while the intended (or unintended...) recipient takes
the packets based on a few limited criteria (source address, destination
address/port, etc). RealAudio "randomizes" the UDP port that it tries to
connect to within a range. That means that to accept RealAudio on your
protected network, you must open a hole in your filter to allow UDP on a
number of ports. Because of the way other UDP-based apps were written,
this presents another vulnerability. 

> I've seen that most people filter out all UDP first and then work from there
> with TCP.  Would it be a gaping hole to allow it?

See above, hope it clears things up for you. The last explanation did for 
me...

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