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Subject: Re[2]: Raptor Product and other comparison of firewalls
From: dnewman @ mcgraw-hill . com
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 11:09:29 EDT
To: Scott Bartram <scottb @ iis . net>
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com

     
     Scott raises a good question about whether the offered load in the 
     Data Comm test reflected "real world" conditions. The test application 
     (which, by the way, *is* available for use in contract testing) makes 
     thousands of connections, not hundreds, and it ran at Ethernet rather 
     than T1 rates.
     
     I'm hearing more and more that the level at which we tested is, if 
     anything, a little light in terms of what Data Comm's readers see. 
     Remember, Data Comm's core audience is managers and designers of large 
     corporate Internet/Intranet installations. I've received numerous 
     inquiries about firewalls for FDDI, fast Ethernet, and ATM networks, 
     and the loads handled by such networks are far higher than anything we 
     modeled in our tests.
     
     The only way to know for sure if a firewall can perform at an 
     appropriate level is to test it with the actual applications it'll 
     handle on the actual network where it'll reside. Marcus Ranum has 
     proposed an excellent performance modelling method that can be scaled 
     to any size load on any speed network. The URL is:
     
     http://www.v-one.com/pubs/perf/approaches.htm
     
     Regards
     
     David Newman                               dnewman @
 data .
 com
     Director, Data Comm Test Program         voice 212-512-6182
     Data Communications magazine               fax 212-512-6833
     
     
I apologize for the implication that the Data Comm test is flawed. A more 
accurate message should have been:
     
In my opinion, the Data Comm test *method* was/is slightly flawed, not the 
test itself. The reason I make this claim is that I have seen hundreds of 
simultaneous connections through a Raptor firewall with no problem at many 
sites. Even though the Data Comm test did expose a bug in the Raptor 
software (causing a connection to be dropped and the test not to complete 
at that level), I would conclude that something in the test method was not 
indicitive of a "real world" load since this result had never been seen 
before by me or Raptor (they claim). Unfortunately, I have no further 
evidence to back up my claim since as far as I know, the test code is
not publically available for inspection.
     
The bottom line is that Data Comm found a bug, Raptor fixed it and performs 
very well in the retest, and Data Comm should be commended for shedding some 
light on the murky world of firewall "performance".
     
scott
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email: scottb @
 iis .
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voice: 301-340-1761               Rockville, MD 20850
     
     


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