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Subject: Re: Linux network monitoring
From: thompson jeffrey w <jwthomp @ cs . uiuc . edu>
Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 22:25:10 -0500 (CDT)
To: Peter da Silva <peter @ baileynm . com>
Cc: peter @ baileynm . com, zarquon @ popalex1 . linknet . net, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <9605082005 . AA05406 @ sonic . nmti . com . nmti . com>

On Wed, 8 May 1996, Peter da Silva wrote:

> > > If your bastion host has klaxon, or something similar, on every port
> > > from 1 to 1000 it's unlikely that your attacker would be able to do
> > > anything useful with the information he gets from his scan, no?
> 
> >     I do not agree.  First off, by using a connection monitor you allow an
> > attacker to scan your entire network for vulnerable machines without any fear
> > of being noticed.
> 
> No he can't. He can only scan the bastion host and other systems in the
> DMZ, all of which have all ports returning a SYN/ACK to his SYN. So what
> he'll get back is "YES" for every port on every machine, which tells him
> nothing he can use.
> 
> Like the bloke in the story, he'll come to the forest with his wagon, and
> see a yellow ribbon around the trunk of every tree. He knows no more about
> the location of any pot of gold than if he'd never searched in the first
> place.


    I see I have made an error.  You are quite correct if the machine is
a bastion host.  As there is little else to scan on the network, you have
essentially "tied ribbons on all of the trees".  A good idea.  However,
I would probably only lay klaxon on popular ports, whether they are active or
not to pass along misleading information.

Jeff Thompson
Jeff Thompson(jwthomp @
 uiuc .
 edu)        Argus Systems Group
http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/jwthomp      - Trusted Network Kernel Developer
ACM at UIUC Vice Chair / SigNET Chair  Member *The Guild




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