At 10:34 AM 6/25/96 -0600, Matthew Cable/USA.NET Inc. wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Rick Romkey wrote:
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>>
>> But not every organization can afford a TCP/IP weenie. That's why
>> they look to a black-box, easy to use solution. That's why Gauntlet
>> isn't the best for everyone. How can a 10 person novell shop
>> justify hiring a dedicated person to deal w/Internet problems.
>
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>How can they justify it?
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Let me see. You wish use match a bozo against the below list. I believe
that is the point some of the below are trying to make:
The Curious Hacker - Students, new internet users.
Individual Hackers - Kevin Mitnick, et al.
U.S. Hacker Clubs - Legion of Doom, Masters of Deception, Sherwood Forest,
Anarchy Inc, Chaos Computer Club, Damage Inc, The Punk Mafia, etc.
International Hackers - Germany, Netherlands, Finland, India, Taiwan, etc.
Corporate hackers - Alleged hacking groups exist in well-known corporations.
AKA Systems administrators/firewallers. Need to test our security!
Consultants - A strong consultant relationship with a compeditor should
be of interest to you. I've seen alleged ftp of e-mail databases.
Fed/Military - Alleged Information Warfare groups exist with the same secrecy
as satellite recon, in U.S., Germany, Japan, France, Iran, etc.
Most effort is in corporate espionage for national economic reasons.
'Columbian'/Mafia groups - Allegedly have hackers in their employ to collect
intelligence/influence people via touching medical/police/credit/
driving/perscription records. Allegedly same as intelligence groups.
Terrorist Groups - Alleged hackers exist in the IRA/Red Brigade/other cause
motivated/impact seeking groups. Air traffic control/hospitals/
perscription authorities/banks/brokerages/lumber companies seem
to be targets.
These people are not going to target Netcom or Compuserve users accounts.
The targets are corporate networks, with various reasons/intents for
each hacking group. Many groups are exersizing their freedoms and ethically
do not alter or damage data, others attempt not to leave a trace of their
visit for intelligence gathering/future purposes, and some are obviously
malicious.
Bill Stout
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