Great Circle Associates Firewalls
(August 1996)
 

Indexed By Date: [Previous] [Next] Indexed By Thread: [Previous] [Next]

Subject: Re: To Subnet or not?
From: chris . liljenstolpe @ ssds . com (Christopher Liljenstolpe)
Organization: SSDS, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:32:32 GMT
To: webmaster @ capitalworks . com
Cc: Ben Goodyear <Ben . Goodyear @ dial . pipex . com>, pah @ esoft . co . uk, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <3210D74B . 7DB9 @ capitalworks . com>
References: <199608121736 . SAA08098 @ typhoon . dial . pipex . net> <3210D74B . 7DB9 @ capitalworks . com>
Reply-to: chris . liljenstolpe @ ssds . com

Greetings,

	I have to disagree, asking for a whole class C for one or
possibly two addresses is egregious use of address space.  Either
subnet the class C (as discussed in an earlier posting) or, if the
firewall can do address translation, use the class C for the network
between your firewall and your ISP or your router, and one of the
reuseable networks behind your firewall.

	-=Chris

On Tue, 13 Aug 1996 15:28:11 -0400, the sage Capital Works Webmaster
<webmaster @
 capitalworks .
 com> scribed:

>Ben Goodyear wrote:
>> 
>> > I'm sure that this is blindingly obvious, but I have not been able to find any
>> > references to it...
>> >
>> > I have a class C address for my network - As part of my firewall I will have a
>> > dual homed sparc 5 running Solaris 2.5. I want to forward packets from one
>> > interface to the other - am I allowed to use netmask 255.255.255.0 with both
>> > interfaces in the same subnet e.g.
>> >
>> > 192.100.100.1 and the other on 192.100.100.2
>> >
>> > I have tried to set routing up for this up and failed so the question is
>> >
>> > Do I have to subnet a class C address to achieve packet forwarding or is there
>> > some trick in the routing that I am missing??
>> >
>> > All the references on this soft of setup assume that you are doing packet
>> > forwarding from something like 192.100.100.1 to 192.100.99.1, but I only have a
>> > class C from my ISP and cannot affort to loose the half my IP addresses that
>> > subnetting would cause.
>> >
>> > Paul.
>> > --
>> >
>> 
>> Yes you do have to use subnetting to implement routing on a single
>> class "c" address.
>> 
>> To route between two networks, the two networks have to have a
>> different network number (or else, how would it know when to route?).
>> To get different network numbers on a class "c" you have to use
>> subnetting.
>> 
>> e.g.
>> 
>> use subnet 255.255.255.192
>> 
>> this will give you four networks of 64 hosts:
>> 
>> x.x.x.0-63, x.x.x.64-127, x.x.x.128-191, x.x.x.192-255
>> 
>> Set one interface to: 192.100.100.65
>> Set the other to:       192.100.100.129
>> 
>Avoid the whole thing!  Get one additional address from your ISP, on the
>same address subnet as your router!  -unless- if your router is
>configured on your class 'C', then have your ISP provide you with a
>unique IP for the router and then do a by-the-way-request for an
>additional one for your firewall?  Thus avoiding the masking issue.
>
>Kevin
>


--
   ( (   | (               Chris Liljenstolpe <Chris .
 Liljenstolpe @
 ssds .
 com>
    ) ) (|  ), inc.        SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd.; Suite 993
   business driven         Bloomington, MN   55437; 
 technology solutions      TEL 612.921.2392  FAX 612.921.2395   Fram Fram Free!
 PGP Key 1024/E8546BD5     FE 43 BD A6 3C 13 6C DB  89 B3 E4 A1 BF 6D 2A A9


References:
Indexed By Date Previous: Re: NT Firewalling
From: John Fulmer <jfulmer @ blanket . com>
Next: Re: NT Firewalling
From: "Fernando da Silveira Montenegro" <silveira @ nutec . com . br>
Indexed By Thread Previous: Re: To Subnet or not?
From: Capital Works Webmaster <webmaster @ capitalworks . com>
Next: Re: To Subnet or not?
From: dsulser @ leosec . saic . com (David Sulser)

Google
 
Search Internet Search www.greatcircle.com