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Subject: Re: Plain-text passwords
From: Todd Graham Lewis <lists @ reflections . mindspring . com>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:46:02 -0500 (EST)
To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb @ FRB . GOV>
Cc: Lawrence Beobachter <larry @ spmu . runnet . ru>, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199611072105 . QAA07087 @ kryten . frb . gov>

On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote:

> 
> >I tried tcpdump on FreeBSD and it turned out that login information
> >during telnet sessions as well as USER and PASS info sent by pop-client
> >are both xmitted in plain text <shudder>.
> 
> 	Please realize that this is true of all internet applications 
> that do not use encryption.  (telnet, ftp, pop, X11, there are so 
> many to chose from ;)

Yup.  Everything.  All of it, from top to bottom.  Everyone and their 
uncle should understand this fact and what it means.

> >Is there any solution besides S/Key (please, include pointers) to
> >block this don't-know-how-to-call-it hole.
> 
> 	skey provides a one-time passwd, but does not provide encryption.
> take a look at ssh for one way of dealing with this problem.

SSH is nice, but unless you fork out $500 (or whatever datafellows is 
charging this week) for a license for RSA, it is illegal to use in a 
commercial context.

We are moving to Kerberos, and I for one love it.  ftp://athena-dist.mit.
edu/pub/kerberos/README for instructions on how to get it.

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