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Subject: Re: Secure firewall with only Linux-Kernel filtering possible?
From: Adam Shostack <adam @ homeport . org>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:02:10 -0500 (EST)
To: Ryan . Russell @ sybase . com (Ryan Russell/SYBASE)
Cc: rammeri @ winternet . co . at, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199701131907 . LAA00453 @ notesgw2 . sybase . com> from Ryan Russell/SYBASE at "Jan 13, 97 11:12:27 am"

Ryan Russell/SYBASE wrote:
| How about if someone hacks port 25 via
| one of the seemingly endless mail bugs (are
| you using sendmail?) so that they now have
| control of a machine on your internal net?
| 
| FWIW, I don't know of a good solution to this,
| short of being religious about keeping your
| mail demon updated and secure.  Even if you 
| have a mail server on the outside or on a DMZ
| which forwards to a mail server on the inside,
| it's just another hop.  I suppose that would make
| it somewhat more difficult.

	qmail.

	www.qmail.org

Adam

quick comparison chart:

qmail				sendmail
-----				--------
210k tar.gz			900k tar.gz
many small binaries		one huge binary
one setuid (qmail) 		one (root) setuid program
designed for security		designed to handle complex mail,
				 like uucp/smtp/chaos
must be artificially    	oh-so-quick that it has its own rate
slowed to avoid maiming		 limiting program so it doesn't bring
 sendmail			 itself to its knees
many small confusing		one famously painful config file
 config files
release of the month club	bug of the month club
 (soon to hit v1.0)
 (no security holes)
possible hubris			known bad value causes proper paranoia 



-- 
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					               -Hume




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