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Subject: RE: Comparative Reviews
From: "Alberto de_la_Torre" <adelator @ tcgpo . com>
Organization: T.C.G. Consulting, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 9:12:00 -0500
To: willis @ sctc . com, bjm @ ottawa . com
Cc: mike @ scio . demon . co . uk, firewalls @ greatcircle . com

FORWARDED MESSAGE from Matt Willis (WILLIS @ SMTP {willis @
 sctc .
 com}) at 
1/29/97 10:33a

>On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Brian McIntosh  -  UniSol Inc. wrote:
>
>> check out  www.zdimag.com  (ZD Internet Magazine)
>>
>> Their firewalls evaluation was just released on Monday.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Brian
>>
>
>It's rather funny that they chose Borderware from Secure Computing,
>without mentioning Sidewinder, which is more appropriately in the other
>tested firewall's five-figure price range...
>
>I like the "product showed no penetration" as we're supposed to take it on
>faith that their penetrative efforts were comprehensive.
>
>It just annoys me that the security side of the firewall is waved off in
>lieu of next-generation application issues.  You have to really think
>about a product that is available on every OS in creation.  What are they
>really doing to harden the base that they stand on?
>
>With all the debate on our challenge site aside, we do stand unpenetrated
>and try to show that we have the most secure operating system and firewall
>in the biz.  We're pretty timid at marketing, but I really wish we would
>hammer this in...
>
>I'm not a salesperson, so I'll stop ranting...
>
>Flame at will...
>
>Matt Willis
>Computer Scientist
>Secure Computing Corporation
>http://www.sctc.com
***** NOTES from Alberto de_la_Torre (ADELATOR @ TCGPO) at 1/30/97 9:05a
Matt,

no flame here, as a newcomer to internet security I have a few questions
(as John Q. Firewall purchaser).

It is very interesting that you mention a "challenge" site.  Do all the
firewall vendors have challenge sites?  Can you post a list of them
if you know the other firewall vendors who have them?  In the absence
of a list of (prior) breaches and their remedies, how can the consumer have
faith that the firewall vendor will actually report if a breach has
occurred?  (It would seem better from a marketing point of view to always 
claim that the challege site has NEVER been breached)

Do the firewall vendors make any attempts to breach each others challenge 
sites?


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