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Subject: Re: Re[2]: Highly available Internet connection
From: "David B. Donahue" <ddonahue @ emf . net>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:52:50 -0800
To: <Laura_Bohde @ prenhall . com>, <firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM>, <mike . starkweather @ anheuser-busch . com>, "Francis Yeung" <fyeung @ fyeung8 . netific . com>
Cc: <www @ qualix . com>

I used to be a reseller (not anymore) for a product called Qualix
"Secure-watch" it was a high availability solution, it worked very well for
me in some complex configurations.

It automatically backed up the firewall and/or web server hardware and
software using  automatic hot cutover/monitoring software and Shared SCSI
disks.

Tech support wasn't great, but it was OK if you were a Sr. Unix sys admin.

According to the sales info on thier home page at:
http://www.qualix.com/sysman/product/securewatch.htmld/

"Qualix has combined the core technology of the leading high-availability
software, QualixHA(tm) (including Qualix HA-Environment(tm)and VERITAS
FirstWatch(r)), with the security of the leading firewall, FireWall-1.
These two products, along with special Qualix HA-Modules(tm) software,
provide a packaged solution for highly available secure Internet
connectivity."

"In order to guarantee access to the Internet, SecureWatch uses two
workstations. A primary workstation operates as the Internet firewall, and
a "hot standby"
workstation operates as the back-up."

I'd bet that a solution like this would solve your problems, they have
several competitors you can do a Hotbot search for "high availability
firewall" and turn some of those up.

-David B. Donahue

P.S. I have no affiliation with them anymore, i just liked thier product,
even if i had problems with thier T/S group.

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> From: Laura_Bohde @
 prenhall .
 com
> To: firewalls @
 GreatCircle .
 COM; mike .
 starkweather @
 anheuser-busch .
 com;
Francis Yeung <fyeung @
 fyeung8 .
 netific .
 com>
> Subject: Re[2]: Highly available Internet connection
> Date: Thursday, January 30, 1997 8:24 PM
> 
>         
>         The firewall is not powered off - what is powered off is 
>         the router on one side of it, and the hub on the other 
>         side.  I never want to use a power switch on a Unix box 
>         for fear of corrupting the File Systems/disks.  Also - 
>         leaving the firewall live enables us to ensure the backup 
>         doesn't have any hardware problems.
>         
>         We haven't automated the synching yet.  Static routes are 
>         defined in a startup file - the same on both systems.  
>         Doesn't change very often, and is easy to change on both 
>         systems, should a new route need to be added.  All I 
>         actually need to do is copy the firewall config files (I 
>         use tape right now, can't ftp because the backup isn't on 
>         a live network) over to the backup system after I make a 
>         configuration change.  Only takes a few minutes -
>         
>         We also thought about the second disk idea, where you 
>         could boot off of another disk that housed the 
>         configuration, but we didn't want to worry about the 
>         experience of the person performing the switch-over.
>         
>         - Laura
> 
> 
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
_________________________________
> Subject: Re: Highly available Internet connection
> Author:  fyeung @
 fyeung8 .
 netific .
 com (Francis Yeung) at INTERNET-PUB
> Date:    1/30/97 10:43 AM
> 
> 
> Laura,
>         
>         What happens to the data - firewall rules, static routes etc,
>  ? How you do keep them in sync if one unit is powered off ?
>         
>         Thanks.
>         
>         Francis
>         
> > From root @
 fyeung25 .
 netific .
 com Thu Jan 30 03:32 PST 1997 
> > From: Laura_Bohde @
 prenhall .
 com
> > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 23:20:46 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Highly available Internet connection
> > To: "'firewalls @
 GreatCircle .
 COM'" <firewalls @
 GreatCircle .
 COM>,
> >         "Starkweather; Mike" <mike .
 starkweather @
 anheuser-busch .
 com> 
> > 
> >         
> >         We have two routers connected to the Internet configured 
> >         identically, as well as two hubs, two firewalls, and two 
> >         hubs on the other side.  Then we installed Black Box 
> >         power on/off switches (one on each router, and one on 
> >         each hub at the other end).  This way we can leave one 
> >         network up and the other powered off.  If any device in 
> >         the "primary" network fails, with a simple phone call 
> >         (our help desk can even do this), one network can be 
> >         powered off and the other powered up.  (this way all 
> >         equipment can actually have the same IP addresses too.) 
> >         
> >         Hope this helps -
> >         
> >         Laura
> > 
> > 
> > ______________________________ Reply Separator 
> _________________________________
> > Subject: Highly available Internet connection
> > Author:  "Starkweather; Mike" <mike .
 starkweather @
 anheuser-busch .
 com> at

> > INTERNET-PUB
> > Date:    1/29/97 4:40 PM
> > 
> > 
> > My company wants to move toward Electronic Commerce on the Internet. 
> >  One of the requirements would be a highly available, secure 
> > connection.  One of the ideas I have considered is two firewalls going 
> > out over two routers to two wide area links to two ISPs.  This is a 
> > pretty brute force approach.
> >         
> > Does anyone have any ideas to share on how we might build an Internet 
> > connection that would approach 100 percent availability?
> >         
> > Thanks for all your help.
> >         
> > Mike Starkweather
> > Anheuser-Busch
> > 
> > 
> > 

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