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Subject: Re: Sidewinder vs. Cyberguard
From: EKR <ekr @ terisa . com>
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 15:29:08 -0800
To: Brian Podolak <brianp @ netrunner . net>
Cc: Firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 03 Feb 1997 14:05:27 EST." <1 . 5 . 4 . 16 . 19970203135653 . 1aef92d6 @ mailhost . netrunner . net>

> At 09:31 PM 2/1/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >Jim Canfield wrote:
> >>The most secure, usable, firewall we have found to date is the
> >>Cyberguard
> >
> >On what basis do you make this assertion?  "secure" can mean a lot of 
> >things and a rubber stamp from NSA or it's equivalent doesn't mean a 
> >whole lot if buggy software can be trivially exploited.  We could go on 
> >about "usable" but I'll let that one slide.  In particular is the 
> >firewall configuration an EXACT match with the 
> >"certified/tested/evaluated" machine?  NT has a C2 rating but it's not 
> >worth a damn.  When was the last time you ran an NT box with no LAN, no 
> >floppy, and with a modified BIOS?  Not exactly a useful product.  Then 
> >again, assuming you duplicate this setup, place said machine nearish to a 
> >window.  Electronic eavesdropping (for about $3000 and change) or outside 
> >observation does tend to degrade the usefulness of said rating does it 
> >not?
> 
> Firest Mistake. NT is not C2 complient. Anyone knowing anything about LAN
> security would know this. Do a little more research before replying to
> someone. Besides, do you even know the differnet levels of security, or are
> you just "anti-nt".(which is not a bad thing)
Actually, you're quite wrong. NT has been evaluated at C2 in
a standalone configuration, which appears to be precisely what
the gentleman was referring to. Please see:

http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/epl/entries/CSC-EPL-95-003.html

-Ekr




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