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Subject: Re: Class B Address
From: "Michael H. Warfield" <mhw @ wittsend . com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:21:39 -0400 (EDT)
To: timh @ usa . net (Timothy D. Hunt)
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <3 . 0 . 2 . 32 . 19970619223801 . 006d1ddc @ pop . netaddress . com> from "Timothy D. Hunt" at Jun 19, 97 10:38:01 pm

Hello...

Timothy D. Hunt enscribed thusly:

> Hi:

> I have a client who, as the result of installing firewalls, is now using a
> registered Class B address that they really don't need.

> I have suggested to the client that it would be to their benefit to convert
> all their internal addresses to RFC 1597 (10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x) addresses,
> but this would take time and effort (i.e. cost money) and obviously there
> would be risk involved in re-addressing lots of machines.

> However, the client has suggested to me that if their costs were covered, they
> might consider making the change.

> My question is whether there is a market in Class B addresses, and if so
> what might one be worth, so I know whether this might a viable idea to persue.

> Thanks for any ideas.

	I think it would be real good idea to approach this real carefully
with a wary eye to what the Internic is going to say.  I went through
some real hassles a couple of years ago just in changing the organization
name my Class B was registered to.  If it wasn't for the fact that I had
the address in active use (and still do) I think they would have loved to
reclaim that lovely piece of prime IP turf.  If they get wind that "Oh, this
address space is no longer used", they are just as likely to come back and say
"Oh, you are suppose to turn those back in."  Their view, as they explained
it to me, was that you don't own that address, you only have it assigned
to you.  If you aren't using it, you are suppose to return it.  Fortunately
for me, at the time I made my organizational changes, I was using it and
have kept it in use.  They STILL tried the "You can't change the organization.
You have to return the address space to us and the new orgainization has to
justify a new assignment" routine on me.  If I hadn't been able to demonstrate
that it was in current use, I would have lost it right then and there.

> P.S. What's my interest? Well the client would need additional consulting help
>      to make the change.....

> P.P.S. I've already had the "For the Good of the Community" discussion with
> the
>        client, and the response was that their fiscal duty was to the
> shareholders.

	Their fiscal duty may have little or nothing to do with it.  The
Internic will tell then that they don't own it to begin with and if they
no longer need it, they are suppose to return it.

> ----
> Tim Hunt, Chatham, NJ, USA  e-mail: timh @
 usa .
 net

	Mike
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