Proxy servers solve this..
n 20-Jun-97 "Stackpole, Bill" wrote:
>To some extent this is true but using an Internet address internally
>that is valid externally makes it difficult to communicate between those
>two sites. Just ask all those people who set up their Sun workstations
>using Sun's IP address. Worked great until they got connected to the
>Internet and tried to access Sun's web site.
>"Simplify - There is no value in complexity, it's too difficult to
>Bill Stackpole, CISSP
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paquette, Trevor [SMTP:TrevorPaquette @
>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 1997 6:31 AM
>> To: 'Michael H. Warfield'; timh @
>> Cc: firewalls @
>> Subject: RE: Class B Address
>> I disagree. Any corporation's responsibility IS to the shareholder
>> first. Without those shareholders. the company would cease to exist.
>> InterNIC holds NO authority within any corporation. Period. (Except
>> their own). They have no legal right to tell me what IP space I can or
>> cannot use WITHIN my own internal network. (The key word here is:
>> WITHIN) They CAN tell me what IP space I can and cannot use to talk
>> the Internet. These are two separate things. If someone wants to use a
>> random class B within their own network, that's fine with me.. Just
>> sure that it does not leak out to the Internet, and that you are doing
>> NAT on all connections going in/out.
>> Now, that being said.. Sticking to RFC 1597 is a excellent good idea
>> because it introduces a very good and well accepted standard that the
>> Internet community as a whole can understand and implement.
>> NOTE: We follow RFC 1597.
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Michael H. Warfield [SMTP:mhw @
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 1997 9:22 PM
>> > To: timh @
>> > Subject: Re: Class B Address
>> > Hello...
>> > Timothy D. Hunt enscribed thusly:
>> > > Hi:
>> > > I have a client who, as the result of installing firewalls, is now
>> > using a
>> > > registered Class B address that they really don't need.
>> > .. deleted ..
>> > > My question is whether there is a market in Class B addresses, and
>> > if so
>> > > what might one be worth, so I know whether this might a viable
>> > to persue.
>> > > Thanks for any ideas.
>> > I think it would be real good idea to approach this real
>> > carefully
>> > with a wary eye to what the Internic is going to say. I went
>> > some real hassles a couple of years ago just in changing the
>> > organization
>> > name my Class B was registered to. If it wasn't for the fact that I
>> > had
>> > the address in active use (and still do) I think they would have
>> > to
>> > reclaim that lovely piece of prime IP turf. If they get wind that
>> > "Oh, this
>> > address space is no longer used", they are just as likely to come
>> > and say
>> > "Oh, you are suppose to turn those back in." Their view, as they
>> > explained
>> > it to me, was that you don't own that address, you only have it
>> > assigned
>> > to you. If you aren't using it, you are suppose to return it.
>> > Fortunately
>> > for me, at the time I made my organizational changes, I was using it
>> > and
>> > have kept it in use. They STILL tried the "You can't change the
>> > organization.
>> > You have to return the address space to us and the new orgainization
>> > has to
>> > justify a new assignment" routine on me. If I hadn't been able to
>> > demonstrate
>> > that it was in current use, I would have lost it right then and
>> > > P.S. What's my interest? Well the client would need additional
>> > consulting help
>> > > to make the change.....
>> > > P.P.S. I've already had the "For the Good of the Community"
>> > discussion with
>> > > the
>> > > client, and the response was that their fiscal duty was to
>> > the
>> > > shareholders.
>> > Their fiscal duty may have little or nothing to do with it. The
>> > Internic will tell then that they don't own it to begin with and if
>> > they
>> > no longer need it, they are suppose to return it.
>> > > ----
>> > > Tim Hunt, Chatham, NJ, USA e-mail: timh @
>> > Mike
>> > --
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