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Subject: Re: Definition of a security expert
From: Mark Teicher <mht @ clark . net>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:58:33 -0400
To: pnash @ hanshan . bbnplanet . com (Paul Nash)
Cc: adam @ homeport . org, craigaa @ iafrica . com, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199706261307 . JAA02104 @ hanshan . bbnplanet . com . >
References: <3 . 0 . 1 . 32 . 19970625162749 . 00853640 @ clark . net>

Paul,

Good set of questions, why not ask yourself, do you have a position within
a firm that allows to learn or acquire those skills to become a security
expert??  Does inate ability, enthusiasm and passion play a factor into one
developing their speciality in the field or trying to learn.  I have
realized in many years that someone with the desire and passion to learn
can do anything they set out to do..  Unless they are bogged down with or
under management direction because they ought to know what is best for that
employee.  I disagree no one manager has ever sat down with me and went
over a career growth or outline with me for my career progression..
In the past year alone I have had six managers all of which did not know
how tgo channel or throttle my energy in what I am good at it.. All of them
promised or said they would try to help my quest, but yet did they.. You
can answer that question.  I am asking these question for the sole reason,
and wondering if there are other people out there in the same situation..
..  I think they are very many of us out there who cannot achieve their
dream due to mismanaged management ...

End of soap box..

/mark

BTW, no a college degree is not necessary, it only states you had the
ability to attain a higher degree, it does not make you a qualified person
in a particular field...



At 09:07 AM 6/26/97 -0400, Paul Nash wrote:
>
>> In your response you stated your would hope that this is the case.  Is it??
>> Office politics should not even into the equation since that takes away
>> from the endless effort of learning and being current in the incredibly
>> fast growing field.  
>
>True, office politics shouldn't be a part in the equation, but
>unfortunately in large corporations they are.. Which brings up another
>point, the person you hire as a security expert must be good at
>multitasking. 
>
>> What type of strong background ??  In what particular aspects of the field
>> are your referring to ??
>> /mark
>
>A strong background in the operating systems they're securing, the routers
>they're running, they're firewall, and the protocols they're using.
>Finding a person with years of experience in each of those is a hard thing
>at this point as the field is still fairly new. 
>
>While we're figuring out what a security-expert is, let me ask you this
>question: How important is a college degree in this field? 
>
> -Paul
>
>
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