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Subject: Re: need suggestion xntpd a security hole ???
From: Bret Watson <Bret . Watson @ bwa . net>
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 14:11:15 +0800
To: Dave Wreski <dave @ nic . com>
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <Pine . GSO . 3 . 95q . 970705020432 . 8880Q-100000 @ nic . com>
References: <v03020900afe3837a0ee6 @ [134 . 7 . 108 . 34]>

The normal trick is to create two machines as NTP stratum 2 or 3 servers.
The rest of the machines server off these two machines (for stability and
redundancy).
>From a traffic point of view it would be better to have the servers inside
your firewall, though NTP traffic is pretty low after the system stabilises.
I assume that your link is not a dial-up.

I think Doug answers the question of whether you can run it through plug-gw
>NTP is a UDP-based service, so you can't plug-gw it.  The usual
>procedure is to run an NTP daemon on the bastion host, and sync it to
>as many low-stratum servers as possible.  Have the internal clients
>sync either directly to the bastion host or to internal higher-stratum
>servers.

Of course this reduces your redundancy as there is only one server now
instead of two.
If you allow a rule of <internal> to <fw> on UDP 123 and <fw> to <anywhere>
on UDP 123 it should work

There is a garmin GPS plug in for a cisco server that I know of - but your
best source of specific info on these type of things is on
comp.protocols.time.ntp

Personally I would use an internal primary server synced from GPS or a
radio clock - have a look at http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/ though they
appear to be down at the moment.

Cheers,

Bret

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