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Subject: Re: (related, but off-topic) Networking Profession...
From: Jim Harmon <jharmon @ telecnnct . com>
Organization: The Telephone Connection
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:54:32 -0400
To: Craig Ward <cward @ Sierrasys . com>
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM, "'ubik'" <ubik @ pdnt . com>
References: <B1ABDD04ED3CD011A8070020AF9E53430130A8 @ SDLA001>

Craig Ward wrote:
> If I were a potential employer, I would value the junior college
> certificate more than the Novell or Microsoft "certifications".  A local
> 4-year college or university extension would be even better.
> 
> The reason is that the colleges are in the business of education while
> Novell, Microsoft, et. al. are in the computer software business.
> Vendor certifications are as much a marketing gimick as anything else.
> The quality of the education is less important than the marketing
> momentum that can be generated.  Colleges, on the other hand, live and
> die by the quality of their educational services.
> 
> These opinions are mine; the corporation for which I work does not, to
> my knowledge, have a policy on this issue.

I would seriously disagree for only one reason, but with a couple
qualifications.  The reason is experiential knowledge.

"Junior College" and "4-year extensions" for What Major?  That's very
serious in consideration, because a 4-year student with no practical
experience and a certificate in "communications" is most likely to be a
psyche major.  That has nothing to do with the job, only demonstrates
that the student finished school.

I agree that Novell and Microsoft are in the Software Business, and if
you want to stretch the description just a little, the Certificate is
another form of software.  Movell and Microsoft certificates are hard to
get from the standpoint that you MUST demonstrate PRACTICAL working
knowledge of NOVELL or MS S/W.

I would forgo BOTH college and Novell/MS certificates for a NAVY
datasystems-specialist (DS) of E-5 or higher rate, because not only will
that person have the training of the 2-4 year certificate, and the
equivalent military certification of CNE or MSCEm but will have anywhere
from 4-9 YEARS of on-the-job experience to back him up.

Besides, I'm very patriotic and ex-NAVY myself.  ;)

Certificates are JUST paper, anyone who can DEMONSTRATE knowledge should
get the job first.
> Craig E. Ward
> --
> cward @
 sierrasys .
 com
> There is nothing half so much worth doing as simply messing about with
> computers.

-- 
   Jim Harmon                           The Telephone Connection
jim @
 telecnnct .
 com                          Rockville, Maryland


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