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Subject: Re: Mail bombing made legal...
From: "Billy Verreynne" <vslabs @ onwe . co . za>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 09:57:32 +0200
To: <firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM>
Reply-to: <vslabs @ onwe . co . za>

Jim wrote:
>  
> Yes, you can 'try' to trace these clowns with the headers, but more often
> than not it gets you nowhere.  I have seen too many where the originating
> host is on a subnet that is firewalled, the host does not run an smtp
daemon,
> or the host 'conveniently' claims all responses are to user unknown.  And
with
> so many picking arbitrary hosts as mailer relays, and then disappearing, 
> where do you go?  I have also seen too many using fictitious domain
names,
> as well as using the private address spaces to further compound the
problems.

I've not yet ran into any of those. Maybe I'm just lucky? :-) 

But surely you can lodge a complaint at the administrator of the domain
that is firewalled (if it's not a temporary spam domain)? You must also
remember that the spammers most of the time supply a contact for the
willing user to buy whatever they're spamming. If tracing received headers
fails, that contact can also be used to trace the spammer. 

How about using the contact number/address/whateever to determine who owns
the spam and phoning that person at 2:00 in the morning (ehh.. because of
the different time zones as we do not want to do anything illegal)
complaining about the spamming? :-)

Even better, why not simply publish a list on the net of home phone numbers
of owners/directors/presidents of spam companies... (think I've seen some
kind of spam phone list before somewhere on the net).

regards,
Billy


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