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Subject: Re: Firewalls don't work
From: Jesse Brown <bextreme @ pobox . com>
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:55:49 -0700 (PDT)
To: Michael Sorbera <msorber @ ibm . net>
Cc: Jamie Lawrence <jal @ thirdwave . com>, mjmccann @ connect . ie, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <33EB4074 . 3135CAC5 @ ibm . net>

On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Michael Sorbera wrote:

> Jamie Lawrence wrote:
> 
> > That's akin to wondering if washing machines work, sending a
> > pair of shoes to a washing machine convention, and then concluding
> > that washing machines don't work because you didn't get your shoes
> > back.
> >
> > You clearly don't know what a firewall is for.
> >
> > -j
> >
> > >Wondering if Firewalls actually work, I decided to send an
> > unsolicited
> > >E-mail to the Firewalls Mailing list with the words "Multi Level" in
> > >the text to clearly indicate a bulk mailing for an unsolicited
> > product.
> > >
> > >4 perons replied objecting (one even writing to my postmaster).
> > >19 persons requested details of the product!
> > >
> > >Back to the drawing boards and a new type of filters, boys and girls.
> >
> > >Kind regards
> > >Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >======================================
> > >
> > >One single piece of good news brightens the darkest day.
> > >                               Proverb
> > >======================================
> > >
> >
> > --
> >   "I am about to, or going to, die. Either expression is used."
> >      --Last words of Mme. Brouhors, Grammarian, August, 1752.
> > __________________________________________________________________
> > jamie @
 42is .
 com              Special Agent              jal @
 acm .
 org
> 
>    Jamie,
>         Not to start a bantering back and forth type flaming situation,
> but...
> 
>     If someone tests the validity of a product by an actual test of it's
> ability to perform a function that it was designed for, and it fails
> miserably, what's wrong with that?  I don't understand how that follows
> with the logic behind your statement?

I think what he was trying to say was that the guy had not actually tested
anything. He has just sent a spam mail to a mailing list that DISCUSSES
firewalls.  It is like sending you dirty laundry to a washing machine
convention, then complaining that they didn't get cleaned. Therefor
washing machines don't work! (to borrow from his analogy)


> 
> Thanks,
> Michael Sorbera
> msorber @
 ibm .
 net
> Remember,
> "In the land of the clueless, he who has half a clue is KING!"
> 
> 
> 
> 



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