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Subject: Re: FIN Scanning through all kind of packet-filtering firewalls?
From: Darren Reed <avalon @ coombs . anu . edu . au>
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:07:54 +1100 (EDT)
To: gary @ habanero . jmu . edu (gary flynn)
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM, firewall-wizards @ nfs . net
In-reply-to: <199711072014 . MAA27692 @ honor . greatcircle . com> from "gary flynn" at Nov 7, 97 03:06:19 pm

In some mail from gary flynn, sie said:
> 
> > From: <robert .
 stahlbrand @
 nmac .
 ericsson .
 se>
> > 
> > The FIN scanning method (presented in Phrack Magazine 49, article 15)
> > where you can scan for open ports on a host behind a packet-filtering
> > firewall even though your rules denys it is certainly working on
> > Checkpoint ver. 2.1(a) 
[...]
> I'm not familiar with Checkpoint but any packet filter that is
> filtering on a destination port is going to toss the packet
> regardless of the SYN or any other flag unless there is some
> special programming.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.  Checkpoint's FW-1 will pass all
packets through with the ACK flag set (except, I think SYN-ACK)
but will strip the body of any data.  They do this so that they can
rebuild state for a connection which has remained open over (say)
the firewall rebooting or connection information expiring.  If the
reply packet was returned, anyway, there's your scan!

Darren


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