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Subject: Re: Cisco PIX Firewall -- comments?
From: ragnar @ shr . is (Finnbogi Ragnar Ragnarsson)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:52:36 +0000 (GMT)
To: mtibodea @ cisco . com (Mike Tibodeau)
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <3 . 0 . 3 . 32 . 19971125150003 . 00891dc0 @ lint . cisco . com> from "Mike Tibodeau" at Nov 25, 97 03:00:03 pm

Last month I saw a presentation focused at security.
The latter half of the presentation was very misleading (to say the least)
regarding firewall solution and how PIX fit in.

I must say though that earlier this year I saw a similar presentation (also
from a PIX 'person') although advocating PIX was very informational
and did address PIX as a part of a bigger picture.


I don't belive that all services should be on a single box. But some
firewalls are offering those features and it should be taken into account 
when comparing costs


> 
> At 05:37 PM 11/25/97 +0000, you wrote:
> >
> >*Some* sale people have presented pix as a firewall that only takes a few
> >minutes to set up and voila: you have a Firewall.
> >
> >They compare it's price to Firewalls that do a lot more than PIX.
> >In their presentation the carefully try not to mention problems such as
> >securing mail or DNS, and don't seem to know what DMZ is.
> 
> I would be curious to know if you have been receiving "bad" information
> from people.  
> 

Not at all.
I even think it is very competively priced and  usefull.

> Also, I would be curious to know to which problems with Mail and DNS 
> you are referring, as there is some mail and DNS protection provided
> with the PIX, albeit not complete.  
> 
> Thanks for your help.
>

I was not referring to specific problems (I only mentioned how in some
cases PIX has been presented).

The point I was trying to make is that most people are looking for a
firewall solution, including proper ('secure') setup of DNS and sendmail.
It means more than adding a single box.

Setting up PIX won't be enough if your sendmail daemon is 5 years old.

As people know it might even not be enough to have smapd on a
firewall/gateway if there is an old bugged sendmail daemon on the inside.

 

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