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Subject: RE: banned URL list required -Reply
From: Ken Williams <jkwilli2 @ unity . ncsu . edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 05:33:03 -0500 (EST)
To: Lon Taulbee <Lon_Taulbee @ WFSFINANCIAL . COM>
Cc: Firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <s4c78807 . 063 @ WFSFINANCIAL . COM>

On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Lon Taulbee wrote:

>This is not a moral issue.  It is a business decision to ensure company
>property is used for company business.  Take your moral issues outside
>the work place.  If you're the owner then you can dictate what you will
>or won't allow on company "workstations".  If you don't like it, go
>somewhere else, start your own business.  Not allowing people to visit
>sex sights is bigger than a moral issue.  You are opening yourself up to
>huge law suits due to sexual harassment claims, because someone saw
>pictures on your monitor that was offensive to them.  You can call it
>what you want, but it is a reality in our society today.  You're shoving
>your morals (or lack of) down my throat by allowing this crap to come
>into the work place, and I don't want to have to look at it or deal with it
>(not even inadvertently).  
>

you are correct; it is not a moral issue.  the points i am trying to make
are that i don't appreciate commercial plugs on the mailing list (i.e.
your post), and that when it comes to blocking company websurfing, i would
prefer to keep the monitoring and implementation completely "in-house".
if one uses third-party software and/or services to restrict WWW access,
then one will be inclined to play a less active roll in the monitoring of
employees, and that is a bad thing.  Cyber Sitter, Net Nanny and other
similar products/services all have serious flaws in the software design
and implementation.  for the very reason that you mention above, to
protect myself from lawsuits related to sexual harassment, i would prefer
to monitor my employees using "in-house" methods.  namely, i would
restrict WWW access as much as possible, if not completely for a majority
of the work force, i would implement active employee monitoring and
logging of WWW activities and would have internal security admins handle
the data/evidence.

personally, i resent the tone of your email and your assumption that i
have tried to speak in defense of pornography.  as Vice President of The
EHAP Corp., i am well aware of the the laws, the problems, the solutions.
i spend my days trying to accomplish goals similar to those that you seem
to embrace.  if you have a problem with employees viewing pornography
while on the clock, then feel free to contact me.  i can offer plenty of
experience and advice...best of all, it is FREE because The EHAP Corp. is
a non-profit organisation; we do not try to force bug-ridden software down
your throats.  we simply offer FREE help and consulting for anyone who
requests such from us.

Sincerely,

Ken Williams

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